Idiots on comment sections...

moonspinner

10 hours ago

Silly Man!
Next I guess he will organise a protection zone for those dear little Foxes who not only attack people but more importantly chickens, which after a visit from a fox leaves the carcase's in a terrible mess and those that survive in a pretty poor way both physicaly and mentally.
These do gooders need to bog off and leave the country life to those who actually understand it.

dynastygal

just now

Yes, you care about the chickens so much, you don't mind them being raised to be killed so you can have kfc, or an omelette or two. Faux caring in the name of vilifying an animal is disturbing. Again, foxes get the blame for farmers who lack the ability to keep their chickens in secure fox proof pens. But that surpassed your lack of ability to think past your own arrogance, right?

Farmers think only of money and do not care what suffering their 'stock' gets. If they understood the countryside, they'd let foxes alone as foxes control rabbit and rodent populations, who in turn annoy vegetable farmers. But alas, humans insist on playing god and in turn messing up ecosystems to the point of no repair. And people wonder why the world is going to pot? Because of HUMANS. We are an arrogant, vile species who destroy anything in our path that we don't like. We are the ones who should be culled, not badgers, foxes, or any other non-human animal.

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gry72

9 hours ago

Typical silly, blinkered and hysterical view, which turns people away from the vital work being done on animal welfare.

Farmers understand one thing better than anyone, and that is how to raise and tend healthy animals, vital for the feeding of the ever expanding human species. In the same way that arable and vegetable farmers can be trusted to raise healthy produce at the best price for a hungry nation, so can livestock farmers.

If as you believe they are only in it for the cash, tell me how an animal that has been poorly treated, or becomes sick or dies having been purchased, fed, watered and tended for part of it's life will help the farmer turn a profit. It is in his best interest to have all his stock as healthy and happy as possible.

Maybe Dr May would welcome my input on coiffure, electric guitaring and noise abatement, I am sure he would be very open to my ideas.

dynastygal

just now

Never been to a battery farm, have you? Or Factory farm. People want cheap meat, they'll get it. Cheap eggs, cheap milk, etc, they'll get it. Did the latest horse fiasco teach you nothing? No, cus clearly you've been brainwashed by the farming elite into thinking they actually give a damn about the animals they have cooped up in tiny sheds, pumped full of hormones and encouraged to provide more than their body could handle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - watch that and then come tell us farmers 'care'. Every farmer I've met cares jack all about the animals they raise. They speak of them only as commodities and not living, thinking beings who deserve to live a fulfilling life free from pain, suffering, neglect and to die naturally, not upside down in some grubby slaughterhouse with blood sliding down their face from the hastily cut aorta. 

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choppac

9 hours ago

Brian, stick to playing music, you are good at that, leave farming issues to farmers, I am sure they prefer your music much more than your animal husbandry knowledge.

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dynastygal

just now

Is that why the farmers regularly break the five freedoms and don't want to vaccinate their cows? I know more about animal welfare than any farmer, and I live in a town. Why do I know this? Because I don't see animals as cash machines like farmers do. Especially dairy farmers who are some of the worst for animal abuse. Taking a baby from it's mother within 24hrs of birth is barbaric and causes so much stress and anguish for both baby and mother. Anyone who supports that and the other horrible abuses in the dairy industry should be ashamed of themselves.

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gry72

6 hours ago

Nutter alert!

dynastygal

just now

If caring about our wildlife is nutty, then I'm glad to be alongside other so called 'nutters'. Or perhaps you could enlighten us with a proper argument rather than resorting to ad hominems? No? Thought not, as pro-animal killers tend not to use logic or intelligence much. More a caveman mentality of 'see animal-must kill'. 

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Northern Tracey

7 hours ago

I'm sure Brian means well and has named the true culprit of the disease as DAIRY FARMERS but experimenting with vaccines?? You might as well shoot all the badgers as use them as vivisection 'guinea pigs' . Doesn't he know that cattle are already 'vaccinated'? Doesn't he know that TB is not a disease one can become immune from or they would have had a vaccine for it in humans already. It is a disease of malnutrition and poverty!! He needs to do some research into this before lining the already stuffed pockets of Big Pharma who incidentally are also culprits in disease in cattle. (Antibiotics anyone?)

dynastygal

just now

You contradicted yourself by saying cattle are vaccinated but it's a disease that can't be vaccinated against. 

Did you not get your TB jab in school? That was a vaccination. Maybe you should do some research before making claims such as there is no vaccination for TB.

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My main comment:

dynastygal

just now

It's called better welfare, but then, dairy farmers don't know much about how to do that, do they? After all, they take calves away from mothers after 24hrs and either shoot the males on site or ship them off for veal to die within a few months time. Then he denies the females their entitled milk and keeps them away from their mothers. If that's not an abuse of some of the five freedoms then I don't know what is.

Farmers need to put up and shut up. They only have themselves to blame. Vaccinate your cows, look after them properly, or don't bother farming at all and stop complaining. The latter is preferable. We don't need murdered cows as well as murdered wildlife.

All on:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/9861095/Brian-May-upsets-farmers-with-his-latest-plan-to-save-badgers.html

A Message to Britain

Why oh why do you continue to support modern day hitmen? Gone have the days of fighting for our country. These modern wars do not make heroes out of anybody. They just make cowardly individuals who are murdering for a pay check. Then you go and condemn those who retaliate on behalf of the invaded nations? What is it with you people, of UK? The recent death of the suggested soldier is nothing special other than it highlights the hypocrisy this nations fuels. We bemoan if another country retaliates but praise our own who put the fuel to the fire, so to speak. Those men and women on the current front line are not fighting for your freedoms. The war on terror is little more than an attempt to put a boogeyman at the edge of everyone's minds every time they see a person of a particular race. It also aids those in power to create more and more intrusive laws, as well as make it easier for them to control their populace. Whilst all your heads are turned towards 'terror attacks', legislation and other sneaky goings on are swifted through with little news coverage.

Also, for those demanding a state funeral? Why? What has one murdered man done that is so special to deserve further tax payer money to be wasted? He joined a corrupt and killing team in the name of oil and other government wants. That's not special. He died in a bloody manner. All the victims of our troops trigger presses died in a bloody manner too. Then there are all the other brutal murders in our country. Why no call for state funerals for them? It's silly, especially when we are facing cuts on our front line services.

No man or woman is above the other. All are equal, be they man, woman, old or young...and dare I say it, a different species. We should not put those who get paid to kill in illegal wars, on a pedestal. It further fuels the hatred of our victims and leads to the attacks on our people you so decry to be 'terrorism'. The West has decimated thousands more people in the countries it has invaded, than all of our supposed 'victims' of 'terrorists' put together.

Wake up. Take those rose tinted glasses off. We are not any more special than the sikh, the muslim, and so on in those other countries, and we certainly are not going to impress upon them superior ideals by waging war; particularly on the civilians. If you want to help those who need help, do so with words and aids (directly to the recipient; not through the corrupt dictator), not guns and ammunition.

No such thing as a 'responsible breeder'.

It annoys and pisses me off greatly when I see pro-adoption people talk about 'responsible breeders'. There is no such thing as a 'responsible' breeder.

Why? You might be thinking. Because all breeders add to the problem and do not subtract from the problem.

Here is an example.

Breeder A breeds a dog. Said dog has 5 puppies.
Rescue Centre B has 5 dogs, varying ages.

Breeder A sells the 5 puppies to 5 homes.
Rescue Centre B has no homes for those 5 dogs of varying ages.

Why does rescue centre b still have no homes? Because they were taken up by the puppies that were sold by breeder A. It's basic maths. The more bred dogs/cats/rabbits/etc in homes, the less homes there are for rescue animals. So, therein lies the problem. Some of these rescued animals end up being put to sleep for no other reason than their alloted 'find a home' time is up. Thankfully, a lot of the big shelters in the UK are 'no-kill' shelters (where they do not perform euthanasia on unwanted animals). However, there are still some that are. Wood Green, RSPCA, Battersea. And the kill shelters are more prevalent in America.

Simply put, breeding ANY domesticated animal that is so numerous that a healthy adoptable one is put down in their thousands every year, is entirely irresponsible. We do not NEED more cats, dogs, rabbits etc. There are plenty sitting in shelters waiting for forever homes already. So do the right thing. Adopt. Never buy.

The phrase is:

Don't sell and buy whilst shelter animals die.

This includes those sold in pet stores - of which for the most part, are mass bred in warehouses and then in tiny enclosures within the stores. Pets At Home, Jollyes. Both guilty as charged. And it does not help that small enclosures are sold as though they are adequate for any animal. The people that staff these places may know basic care, but are far from knowledgeable on any animals full needs. They cannot even guarantee the sex of most of the animals they sell. Partly because they sell babies - many of these animals are far to young to be away from mother, but babies is what gets the money rolling in. Also, there is no home check either. So a poor rabbit may end up in a home with a dog that sees rabbit as a tasty morsel, and not a new friend. Plus many other things needed to take into account when re-homing an animal.

So, basically, any store or breeder selling animals is not doing the animals a favour. Especially since the main aim is to make a profit. When you treat an animal as a money making machine, any respect or care for the animal often goes out the window. That's why there are so many puppy farms, and warehouse breeding of pet shop animals (including ones sold in garden centres).

An animal is not a thing to be bartered and sold. It is a living, breathing being that requires a life commitment. So please, spay and neuter your pets, adopt from a shelter (even if it means several hours drive) and don't perpetuate the myth of a 'responsible breeder'.

Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher...a good thing.

Love her or loathe her. She's popped her clogs.

I personally don't know much about her other than she is a tory, so probably a complete asshole of a politician...and no doubt believed in the mantra of making the rich richer, and the poor poorer like our current tosspot, Cameron.

That said, the one thing annoying me about this whole thing is people are using the ending of free milk in schools for certain age groups as one of the 'bad' things she did. As usual, this reeks of dairy lobby brainwashing about milk supposedly being good for us.

Fact of the matter is, taking free milk away from schools was probably one of the only good things she did in her life. If you think a child should be consuming milk for health reasons...you're dead wrong - to the point of osteoporosis wrong. I see it everywhere; people so dumbfounded and brainwashed by the dairy lobby, they don't even understand where milk comes from and how it's made. Yes, there are people who think 'cows just eat grass and make milk'. They do not stop and think for one minute that, as a mammal (like humans), the cow has to be pregnant in order to lactate. Yes, milk is a cow's lactations. Just like ferret milk is a ferret lactation, goats milk...and you get the idea. And what is milk intended for? Babies! That is, the babies of the species the milk is coming from. Cows milk for calves, goats milks for kids (baby goats, not human children), human milk for human babies. This is how mammals feed their young in the early stages of life, and how the young receive all the necessary antibodies for their body. The first milk any baby animal or human drinks is colostrum. This is the most important of all milk suckled. Unfortunately, some animals do not even get this.

Calves are torn from them mothers within 24 hours or less just so the farmer can have his milk to sell. The females will be fed on powdered milk - yes, they get the crappy man made stuff, whilst we steal what is rightfully theirs. Males will be shot on sight, or if the farmer can make any money from it, sent for veal. Veal is where male calves are fed an iron deficient diet to make them anaemic. It is considered a delicacy. These calves, also, on most veal farms are crated and tied to one end of the crate via a rope attached to the neck.

Female calves become herd replacers. And do you know what happens when their mothers don't produce the required amount of milk the farmer expects? She ends up at the slaughter house too. Those cheap burgers, pies, etc. She is probably in one of those. A mother, a mammal, a living breathing being. Not content on causing them incredible emotional distress from calf snatching, farmers milk them for all their worth with mechanical pumps - which contrary to popular belief, are nothing like the soft suckling of a calf. Then she may be chained at the legs if she begins to buckle underneath the weight of her udder (some cows are so over bred or had genes meddled with to cause bigger milk yields have bodies that can't handle it). Lastly she gets to hear the cries of her herd mates as they go through the slaughter house system in a quick and timely fashion. You've been told it's humane, clean, best way to do it, right? More agri lies. If you ever get undercover footage of a slaughterhouse you'll see this is not the case. Time is money, so minimal checks to no checks will be made to make sure any stunning has occurred properly. So often the cows (and most other animals) bleed out from the slice to the jugular. They literally bleed to death whilst hanging upside down by one leg on a chain linked to a conveyor belt. Humane? No. Clean? No. The Best? No.

And you know what? There is absolutely no need for any of this, let alone other meats or animal excretions in our diets. Most of the world is lactose intolerant. We certainly weren't consuming milk when we went 'ug'. Milk is for babies. Not for any other species. We are the only species to steal and consume the milk of another species. If that's not a clue as to it being wrong, I don't know what is. And you know what's funny? The pro-dairy people try to counter that claim by showing pictures of tigers suckling pigs and what not. Guess what? Those are human created interactions. You'd be hard pressed to find it in the wild. Plus they are also babies! All babies need a mother's milk. But not another species milk unless there is a dire need in the wild and one species goes against the norm and adopts a baby of another species. But again, these instances are rare and do not in anyway show we should consume milk, let alone enslave cows, take away their young and then kill the mothers. Even animals in the wild who do those rare scenarios do not do this! Plus appealing to nature always ends up as a fallacious argument since one can say that if we are to copy nature then we would allow such things such as infanticide based on territory and mating habits. And it can also be easily said about herbivores existing, so vegans can use that too.

If you're going to make a solid argument, don't use something that can be spun around and thrown back at you.

Anyways, I've gone on a bit and strayed from the original point.

I don't care if people want to celebrate the death of ole' maggie. I don't care if they dance on her grave. The whole respect the dead crap is just that, a pile of crap. The dead can't care. They're dead. So disrespect away. But please, for god's sake, don't complain about her milk snatching ways as though it was a bad thing. It was the best and probably only good thing she did. Use the brain you were born with and make the connection. Mammals = live young and fed on milk secreted from mammaries. Seriously, don't be a sheeple. The dairy lobby and agri lobby rely on sheeple. Prove to them you won't be their bitch!

"Disabled children should be put down"...so says counciller

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/27/cornwall-councillor-colin-brewer-disabled-children-put-down_n_2771826.html

To be honest, I have no problem with this statement. It's no different to those who put down animals due to not finding homes or lack of money etc. Just the usual hypocrites crying 'cruel, evil man'. At least he is being honest.

And to be honest, if a parent knows their baby is going to be disabled before it's even born, I think they should be guilty of child cruelty for letting said child be born into a world where they are going to have a poor quality of life.

Do not bare children you know will not be able to have a good quality of life. Do not bare more than two children. Do not bare children if you can successfully adopt. If you cannot physically have children, do not attempt to get IVF on the NHS. Having children is a lifestyle choice. Not a right.

43 year old playground bullies.

It seems some 43 year olds need to grow up. Posting a private message publicly so others can berate the person you are speaking to is pathetic. Let's see:

"This silly girl needs to grow up, domestic animals are bred to improve the genetic strain and improve the survival of the species."

Are they really? Is that why so many dogs today have health problems? And I actually referred to in the private message that no domesticated animal should be bred since it causes overpopulation problems.

" I'm willing to bet that this silly girl and her 'cuddlytarian' is a veggie and a sanctimonious one at that, who thinks she is better than everyone else, yet will have no idea of the farming practices employed to get her tofu, or how much damage is done to the environment by her organic veggies (no they are not the best option for the environment). I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THIS!!!!! Think they know everything and know f**k all."

Vegan, actually, and who said anything about organic? And clearly thinks I know nothing of my own food. Rather presumptuous of her to assume I don't know such and such. I don't know everything, but I know a lot more than most people when it comes to animals and food production. There's a reason I'm bloody vegan, because of what I know.

"Hamster warrier!!!! I hate them too-they are pointless little rodents!"

Much like humans are pointless. Hmm, I don't find Spice, the darling little thing in the room adjacent to me, 'pointless'. I find him lovely and it was MY and my partners and a friends TLC that got him out of his aggressive nature. But of course, I must know nothing about animals....*rolls eyes*

"Anyways-hamster freak!!!!!"

Why thankyou, I would rather be that than a hypocrite who munches on a burger (with added horse) whilst petting a kitten.

"She said you only care about cute and cuddly...didn't you have snakes at one point??? This woman sounds crazy lol!!"

Clearly does not know what the cuddlytarian word means. It refers to anything nice looking or 'cute'. Snakes are pretty animals, not animals UK citizens tend to think of eating.

"I'm sorry but I hate hamsters- yuk!!! There bitey stinky wee things & she's a prime example of why certain humans are arseholes!!!!"

Not all hamsters bite, and if anyone has been bitten by a hamster, it will be their fault. Myself included. Also, all humans are assholes at one point or another, least I'm not a constant asshole to animals.

"Exactly she's a weirdo! Speaking of weirdos I shall inbox you, because I know where a certain person lives xxx"

Giving out a personal address to incur malicious goings on is illegal.

"If she knows so much about animals & what they do and don't like, why was she bitten by a lemming, horse, dog, etc.....lol!!! X"

Another who has no idea of circumstances. The horse was wild, and aggressive anyway and did not like me giving a carrot to his herd mate, go figure. The lemming did not want me tampering with his envrionment (cleaning out at college), the dog was a dog that had been abused and I was attempting to muzzle him so I could take him safely to a rescue place. It's nothing to do with not knowing about animals, it's to do with circumstances. Did I get upset and angry at all those animals for biting me? No, because I know it is my fault. I upset them in some manner. And that's that. I'm not like other arrogant humans who think any animal that bites them must be 'evil'.


" i had to laugh when i read this..how can she say all that to u when all u do is live and breath animals?..there r things u have told me that amazed me so shes just chatting shit.."

Is this why this 43 year old still eats animals, uses iams even though she knows about the intramuscular vivisection, who 'hates' hamsters just because she got bit by one? Doesn't sound to me like she lives and breathes animals, more like lives and eats animals and cares for a select few species she happens to like. A bit like most people who feel ok eating an abused cow yet moan about abused dogs in China that get eaten.

"Methinks the little girl needs to start by learning some manners."

Manners like what started this whole debacle? - 'oh ffs im 43 had animals all my life i know how to handle and stroke them lol i was the 1st breeder in this contry to breed champagne rats now known as siamese rats before u were even born' - those words are what made me retaliate. I believe those words lack manners too...funny that they can't see that and point the blame at me.

"im with anna....crazy...she obviously doesnt know you at all"

I know enough, considering I've sold to her twice and given her cat litter trays. Also, I know she smokes terribly around her animals...especially little birds. Nobody should smoke around an animal or anyone who cannot consent to breathing in the second hand smoke. It is a disgusting habit and a sign of a bad 'pet owner' to boot.

"She seems like shes turned her opinions into 'facts'."

An opinion cannot be a fact, I just happen to know a lot of 'facts' about animals, it irks people that I do.

So there you have it, a 43 year old smoker who supposedly lives and breathes animals, yet lets them breathe second hand smoke, does not use proper means of rehoming animals, admits to being a breeder, uses animal food tested inhumanely on dogs and cats and acts like a school yard bully.

And people think I'm the bad guy/gal? Pfft.

"You're just as bad as..."...

...as what?

As the people who committed 9/11, 7/7, etc.

Yep. I was likened to people who make bombs and blow them up on busy subways or hijack planes into buildings!

Why was I likened to them, might you ask?

For the following posts:

"Agreed. I also think America deserved it for being the arrogant nation they are, invading and pillaging countries - no wonder these nations have organisations that are willing to bite back."

"You're on a forum with many who have misanthropic attitudes, what did you expect?

I too laughed when I saw the re run several years after, of the plane hitting the building. America deserved it. It only has itself to blame."

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These two posts, simple in nature, ended up with the following:

 "I hope you never have to lose a loved one from circumstances similar to that. I bet you think the people of London or Madrid deserved it too right?

Your almost as bad as the people that commited those atrocity's."

To which I instantly replied:

"And I'm sure you think about all the ikle little children blown up by western bombs in the war preceeding it that actually was illegal.  

Typical naysayer who doesn't understand what goes around, comes around. UK were just as guilty when they joined in the war on the invisible boogeyman. Sad that people don't understand that when you piss people off that much, they will bite back. 

And saying I'm as bad as someone who physically blows themselves up? XD

That doesn't even make sense. 

You are on the internet. You are on this forum. Stay in the non-agressor parts of this forum if you don't want to have your feelings hurt over what people say on the internet. 

P.S. carry on being brainwashed by your media that there is a real threat to the West that wasn't the West's fault at all...keep believing every person that looks muslim like is a 'terrorist'....it'll be YOU who looks the paranoid one. Not those who can see why these things happen and why the media is pushed to keep the masses complicit to a lie...a scared nation is an easier one to control "

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So, lesson is, boys and girls; stop being so emotive over a decade old act of retaliation and use that brain you were born with to anoint logic and reason as to why these things happen. But I guess I am asking to much of the general public. After all. Their intelligence levels are quite atrocious. And yet they claim to be the smartest species on the planet? Pah! Make a reasoned debate without resorting to any fallacies and be vegan, then maybe, just maybe, I might consider you one of the elite few who has mastered the ability to use more than one brain cell at a time.

I will edit this blog post if I get any more replies to the last iteration I post above (as highlighted by the light grey).